When Soderling plays his best tennis, he can hurt and do some damage with Nadal, Djokovic and Federer in the Slams. I think he has a bigger potential then Murray, that´s what I´m saying
Very sad to hear that Robin Soderling still suffers greatly from mononucleosis/glandular fever. I read that some days he can´t even get up from the coutch/bed. He was ranked as high as 4 in the world but was for most part a real solid world nr 5. His tennis-career is in great danger to end. His latest (could be the last) match was when he won the tournament Baastd/Sweden/2011. Robin we need you back!!!
By Nicolás Ignacio Palma Catalán, March 2, 2013 @ 10:47 pm
@aggbala Soderling just gave it away?! To quote Mr McEnroe You CANNOT be serious! He was completely outplayed by a far more 3 dimensional player who had his number, example bringing Sod to the net where he was useless. Yes a player like Soderling would have had more of a chance in a faster court, no way would he have automatically won it however, he simply doesn’t have the skillet of Andy, but then no one apart from maybe Federer does.
These idiots here don’t understand tennis. The one who hits harder isn’t necessarily better, or more deserving to win.
Soderling is one of the taller and stronger players on tour. So, a smart player like Murray with a lot of variety will use low slices, drop shots, and defensive plays, not try to out hit him. That’s why the score was so one sided.
the court was damn slow in this one. soderling would have won if he jsut could have mixed up his offensive play abit better and get in some more aces. murray was on the run whole match….soderling jsut gave it away
Well i don’t see a point in comparing players. And i didn’t say anything bad about Murray either. Generally both players have their own qualities. I see you’re point whereby each tournament is a fair reflection of their capability, but i just do not see need in comparing. They play different players,they are good on different courts, soderling is more clay, murray better on hard courts. Finally, their career is not over, maybe when both retire then a more fair comparison can be made.
im not too bothered about comparing players in general. i was just a bit frustrated with someone who kept knocking murray without much reason. i see your point about playing different players but remember they play alot of the same tournaments and even if they dont play the same players, their results over a series ovf tournaments is a pretty fair reflection of their ability i’d say.
@MeltedButterCorp and yes soderling has beaten nadal at the french. thats a great achievement but its impossible to talk about that win without noting nadal was suffering from a knee injury that kept him out for 2 months straight after. soderling hasn’t beaten nadal in a slam since btw. murray has beaten nadal twice in two different slams. i dont think theres much argument to say soderling is better tbh. you’re fighting a lost cause…
@MeltedButterCorp I don’t think soderlings knee injury alone explains the difference in stats. he had a bad year for injuries in 2006, if we take that out of the equation he’s still had 3 more years as a pro than murray. thats enough time to make an impact and pull ahead of murray. in the last 3-4 years soderlings had no serious injuries and in that time mourray has had a serious wrist injury, but murrays still managed to win more titles and has a better win %.
Thats not a fair comparison! im not saying i dislike Murray, but based on your comparison, its unfair to see the better player. They both played different players in each slam, and they meet different opponents in each tournament. You’re comparison in terms of percentage is sound, but not fair to either players. Why compare players? Just enjoy the game . Its tennis, a love affair that can’t die.
murrays 2 aussie open finals look at his opponents?
2010: anderson, serra, gicquel, isner, nadal(injured), cilic? 2011: beck, marchenko, garcia-lopez, dolgopolov, ferrer
whereas soderling has beaten gonzalez who was top 10 at the time, berdych, davydenko, federer, nadal both at their peaks reaching a grand slam final as a 23rd seed whereas murray did it as the 5/6th seed. he has also reached the final of the french open twice whereas murray doesnt yet have a clay court final to speak of
murray has been playing his best for a long time now whereas soderling hasnt until he worked with magnus norman. murray may have more titles but thats nothing but money to them when it comes to the grand slams murray is the first man to lose 3 straight finals in straight sets. think of all the best tennis players of all time. what are they remembered for? grand slams and neither have won any
@Rafathaman94 haha, soderling is not better than murray. heres a few stats for you….
tournaments won: murray 16 soderling 7
masters titles: murray 6 soderling 1.
career win % murray 74.2 sod 63.2.
Career best ranking murray no.2 soderling no.4
overall grand slam performance, murray has had better results at 3 of the 4 slams. and consider that murray is over 3 years younger! its pretty obvious murrrays better.
Pathetic…its pathetic to see people fighting over “their players” victories or losses. You never see Nadal bitching about losses even when he might have been feeling fatigue, he is too humble and above all mature to bicker about it. You could learn something from the players you supposedly idolise. What’s done is done. A loss is a loss, so grow up and move on…
By henry51563, March 2, 2013 @ 9:27 pm
soderling was the more offensive player but murray was wining the points
By Leopoldfed94, March 2, 2013 @ 9:50 pm
When Soderling plays his best tennis, he can hurt and do some damage with Nadal, Djokovic and Federer in the Slams. I think he has a bigger potential then Murray, that´s what I´m saying
By MrJamesLongstreet, March 2, 2013 @ 10:36 pm
Very sad to hear that Robin Soderling still suffers greatly from mononucleosis/glandular fever. I read that some days he can´t even get up from the coutch/bed. He was ranked as high as 4 in the world but was for most part a real solid world nr 5. His tennis-career is in great danger to end. His latest (could be the last) match was when he won the tournament Baastd/Sweden/2011. Robin we need you back!!!
By Nicolás Ignacio Palma Catalán, March 2, 2013 @ 10:47 pm
and to volley…
By davenw6, March 2, 2013 @ 11:39 pm
I meant ‘skill set’ btw
By davenw6, March 3, 2013 @ 12:09 am
@aggbala Soderling just gave it away?! To quote Mr McEnroe You CANNOT be serious! He was completely outplayed by a far more 3 dimensional player who had his number, example bringing Sod to the net where he was useless. Yes a player like Soderling would have had more of a chance in a faster court, no way would he have automatically won it however, he simply doesn’t have the skillet of Andy, but then no one apart from maybe Federer does.
By benegeseritwhore, March 3, 2013 @ 12:37 am
These idiots here don’t understand tennis. The one who hits harder isn’t necessarily better, or more deserving to win.
Soderling is one of the taller and stronger players on tour. So, a smart player like Murray with a lot of variety will use low slices, drop shots, and defensive plays, not try to out hit him. That’s why the score was so one sided.
By aggbala, March 3, 2013 @ 1:26 am
the court was damn slow in this one. soderling would have won if he jsut could have mixed up his offensive play abit better and get in some more aces. murray was on the run whole match….soderling jsut gave it away
By MrPhilsd, March 3, 2013 @ 2:00 am
@Rafathaman94 just look at murrays all round game! if that isnt enough look at ranking points. Murray is MILES ahead of soderling. superior
By LaWRenZzzz111, March 3, 2013 @ 2:46 am
the 1st point was breath taking…
By ripperxd95, March 3, 2013 @ 3:17 am
murray would be a good slicing teacher
By patrickstar2241, March 3, 2013 @ 4:13 am
Well i don’t see a point in comparing players. And i didn’t say anything bad about Murray either. Generally both players have their own qualities. I see you’re point whereby each tournament is a fair reflection of their capability, but i just do not see need in comparing. They play different players,they are good on different courts, soderling is more clay, murray better on hard courts. Finally, their career is not over, maybe when both retire then a more fair comparison can be made.
By indyk91, March 3, 2013 @ 4:44 am
im not too bothered about comparing players in general. i was just a bit frustrated with someone who kept knocking murray without much reason. i see your point about playing different players but remember they play alot of the same tournaments and even if they dont play the same players, their results over a series ovf tournaments is a pretty fair reflection of their ability i’d say.
By indyk91, March 3, 2013 @ 5:14 am
@MeltedButterCorp and yes soderling has beaten nadal at the french. thats a great achievement but its impossible to talk about that win without noting nadal was suffering from a knee injury that kept him out for 2 months straight after. soderling hasn’t beaten nadal in a slam since btw. murray has beaten nadal twice in two different slams. i dont think theres much argument to say soderling is better tbh. you’re fighting a lost cause…
By indyk91, March 3, 2013 @ 6:03 am
@MeltedButterCorp I don’t think soderlings knee injury alone explains the difference in stats. he had a bad year for injuries in 2006, if we take that out of the equation he’s still had 3 more years as a pro than murray. thats enough time to make an impact and pull ahead of murray. in the last 3-4 years soderlings had no serious injuries and in that time mourray has had a serious wrist injury, but murrays still managed to win more titles and has a better win %.
By patrickstar2241, March 3, 2013 @ 6:17 am
Thats not a fair comparison! im not saying i dislike Murray, but based on your comparison, its unfair to see the better player. They both played different players in each slam, and they meet different opponents in each tournament. You’re comparison in terms of percentage is sound, but not fair to either players. Why compare players? Just enjoy the game . Its tennis, a love affair that can’t die.
By gurugobindting, March 3, 2013 @ 7:14 am
murrays 2 aussie open finals look at his opponents?
2010: anderson, serra, gicquel, isner, nadal(injured), cilic? 2011: beck, marchenko, garcia-lopez, dolgopolov, ferrer
whereas soderling has beaten gonzalez who was top 10 at the time, berdych, davydenko, federer, nadal both at their peaks reaching a grand slam final as a 23rd seed whereas murray did it as the 5/6th seed. he has also reached the final of the french open twice whereas murray doesnt yet have a clay court final to speak of
By gurugobindting, March 3, 2013 @ 7:42 am
murray has been playing his best for a long time now whereas soderling hasnt until he worked with magnus norman. murray may have more titles but thats nothing but money to them when it comes to the grand slams murray is the first man to lose 3 straight finals in straight sets. think of all the best tennis players of all time. what are they remembered for? grand slams and neither have won any
By ArjunJethwa, March 3, 2013 @ 7:50 am
Couldn’t of put it better!
By indyk91, March 3, 2013 @ 8:40 am
@Rafathaman94 haha, soderling is not better than murray. heres a few stats for you….
tournaments won: murray 16 soderling 7
masters titles: murray 6 soderling 1.
career win % murray 74.2 sod 63.2.
Career best ranking murray no.2 soderling no.4
overall grand slam performance, murray has had better results at 3 of the 4 slams. and consider that murray is over 3 years younger! its pretty obvious murrrays better.
By ArjunJethwa, March 3, 2013 @ 9:28 am
@Rafathaman94 LOL. Lets be honest, no he wont.
By yellowblueskyfly, March 3, 2013 @ 9:41 am
its funny how these british announcers are breathing down murrays neck on a lot of points…whether he wins or loses.
By 93RastafarianPikachu, March 3, 2013 @ 10:30 am
Pathetic…its pathetic to see people fighting over “their players” victories or losses. You never see Nadal bitching about losses even when he might have been feeling fatigue, he is too humble and above all mature to bicker about it. You could learn something from the players you supposedly idolise. What’s done is done. A loss is a loss, so grow up and move on…
By RFmeastro, March 3, 2013 @ 10:59 am
@pannkakananton
man måste lära sig att spela tennis också..
By pannkakananton, March 3, 2013 @ 11:20 am
soderling must learn to slice